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chuanjun
01-11-2011, 01:22 PM
I never expected myself to ask for opinion, but help me make a decision :ohreally:

Which UA for main from the shortlisted choices?

My own shortlisted UAs:

UA Paladin (Could be done without UA?)

Pros :
High Defence -> Pot Saving
HP recovering skill -> Pot Saving
Doesn't require fund

Cons :
Trolldriver sucks totally

UA Viper

Pros :
HP draining skill
Fast in PVP and PVE

Cons :
Low DPS
Requires funding

Class Bossing DPS (This chart is pre-Chaos)
1st Highest DPS: Shadower ME + DOT ~1,317,749 DPS (BS + SB + DOT ~549,441 DPS)
2nd : Cosair Canon ~992,338 DPS
3rd : Wild Hunter Wild Vulcan ~894,102 DPS
4th : Bowmaster Hurricane ~802,175 DPS
5th : Dual Blade CoH + DOT ~788,776 DPS
6th : Hero Brave Slash ~753,724 DPS
7th : Paladin Blast ~730,204 DPS
8th : Dark Knight Sacrifice ~725,327 DPS
9th : Marksman Ultimate Strafe ~661,408 DPS
10th : Night Lord Triple Throw + DOT ~645,371 DPS
11th : Aran Overswing + Final Blow ~645,280 DPS
12th : Viper Demolitian ~619,893 DPS
And the mages

Statistics from Dusk~


Please help me choose one instead of debating over the DPS chart :/

Nom
01-11-2011, 02:14 PM
chu got a fever for thinking too hard about this. so explain well or cj will be pissed lol

kratos94
01-11-2011, 04:38 PM
hero

iDustin
01-11-2011, 07:46 PM
I agree with kratos, or i would choose paladin, doesnt matter if he moves like a snail dude, if mobility is such a botter to you then i got no idea.

Imitazion
01-11-2011, 07:53 PM
mobility is solved with the jewelist system. I achieved max speed and jump with the rings and a speed pill.

I love my Hero, and I can only recommend it.
Paladin is a very fun job too.

chuanjun
01-12-2011, 06:33 AM
Is UA Souldriver better after the buff? I might get a Pally if I can figure out the speed thingy.

Imitazion
01-12-2011, 08:00 AM
Is UA Souldriver better after the buff? I might get a Pally if I can figure out the speed thingy.

soul driver got nerfed from 5 monsters 250% damage to 6 monsters 180% damage.

chuanjun
01-12-2011, 03:29 PM
Class Bossing DPS

1st Highest DPS: Shadower ME + DOT ~1,317,749 DPS (BS + SB + DOT ~549,441 DPS)
2nd : Cosair Canon ~992,338 DPS
3rd : Wild Hunter Wild Vulcan ~894,102 DPS
4th : Bowmaster Hurricane ~802,175 DPS
5th : Dual Blade CoH + DOT ~788,776 DPS
6th : Hero Brave Slash ~753,724 DPS
7th : Paladin Blast ~730,204 DPS
8th : Dark Knight Sacrifice ~725,327 DPS
9th : Marksman Ultimate Strafe ~661,408 DPS
10th : Night Lord Triple Throw + DOT ~645,371 DPS
11th : Aran Overswing + Final Blow ~645,280 DPS
12th : Viper Demolitian ~619,893 DPS
And the mages

Statistics from Dusk~

Celik1
01-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Ooh, really Thanks! I've been looking this

@above.

xchicobo
01-12-2011, 06:29 PM
Class Bossing DPS

1st Highest DPS: Shadower ME + DOT ~1,317,749 DPS (BS + SB + DOT ~549,441 DPS)
2nd : Cosair Canon ~992,338 DPS
3rd : Wild Hunter Wild Vulcan ~894,102 DPS
4th : Bowmaster Hurricane ~802,175 DPS
5th : Dual Blade CoH + DOT ~788,776 DPS
6th : Hero Brave Slash ~753,724 DPS
7th : Paladin Blast ~730,204 DPS
8th : Dark Knight Sacrifice ~725,327 DPS
9th : Marksman Ultimate Strafe ~661,408 DPS
10th : Night Lord Triple Throw + DOT ~645,371 DPS
11th : Aran Overswing + Final Blow ~645,280 DPS
12th : Viper Demolitian ~619,893 DPS
And the mages

Statistics from Dusk~
lol I seriously doubt Shads do 1.3m damage every second without cooldowns/certain skills/skill delays/etc. (Unless you have perfect gear)

Imitazion
01-12-2011, 07:26 PM
I'll record an inspirational video of my hero.
lol.

-Jason
01-13-2011, 12:58 AM
btw, ua are not slow anymore because of the medal we get when we make a ua and also from the ring that give you godly speed and jump ( saw a few going around fm for like 3 or 4 mils - made with the jeweller skill i believe) also, what happened to ua dks? is no one doing them because they are too common (maybe i should have gone ua il? lol)?

ps. they have no hp pot waste because of judgement dragon (with dragon blood) but they do some serious mp pot burn :(

chuanjun
01-13-2011, 12:01 PM
lol I seriously doubt Shads do 1.3m damage every second without cooldowns/certain skills/skill delays/etc. (Unless you have perfect gear)

All gears are of the same level and similar stats, Shads can do 1.3m DPS is due to Mesos Explosion + DOT, look at the bracket, Boomerang Step + Band of Theives + DOT do so much lesser damage.

btw, ua are not slow anymore because of the medal we get when we make a ua and also from the ring that give you godly speed and jump ( saw a few going around fm for like 3 or 4 mils - made with the jeweller skill i believe) also, what happened to ua dks? is no one doing them because they are too common (maybe i should have gone ua il? lol)?

ps. they have no hp pot waste because of judgement dragon (with dragon blood) but they do some serious mp pot burn :(

O_O So your iKYZR, my sm ish still 118. I didn't know you went for UA DK, they're quite bad as no one needs HB from Dks anymore...

Nom
01-13-2011, 01:06 PM
i saw a wild hunter lv191 vid doing 1.4m~2m per second with wild valcan. although, that was the best in all of kMS.

-Jason
01-13-2011, 02:36 PM
O_O So your iKYZR, my sm ish still 118. I didn't know you went for UA DK, they're quite bad as no one needs HB from Dks anymore...

ah. i see :damn:

ps. go through that last 10 hours of suffering and get your ua! totally worth it :)

kotpx3
01-13-2011, 03:30 PM
Yup, totally worth it.. spent 5 hours for peridots and i quit my ua shadower -.-

chuanjun
01-13-2011, 03:30 PM
ah. i see :damn:

ps. go through that last 10 hours of suffering and get your ua! totally worth it :)

I'm still levelling slowly, but I need a main first.

-Jason
01-13-2011, 04:08 PM
damn it, i so wanna get back on ( installation downloading half way :((()
and get my dk to drk for that red buster/thrasher animation xD\

btw, casperm, what lvl is your aran now????

Imitazion
01-13-2011, 04:13 PM
damn it, i so wanna get back on ( installation downloading half way :((()
and get my dk to drk for that red buster/thrasher animation xD\

btw, casperm, what lvl is your aran now????

91.

chuanjun
01-14-2011, 05:43 AM
Yup, totally worth it.. spent 5 hours for peridots and i quit my ua shadower -.-

:shocked: I think I'm going for Paladins... Or should I not get my UA?

The HP, INVENTORY decrease REALLY worries me...

R3SISTANCE
01-14-2011, 12:35 PM
Just have a HB slave with you at all times. That'll do it.

chuanjun
01-14-2011, 03:15 PM
Does UA Shadower suck that badly?

-Jason
01-14-2011, 03:20 PM
i think its a matter of personal opinion...

whatever ua you create, just stick with it

ShiKage
01-14-2011, 03:30 PM
As far as I'm aware, Dusk hasn't completed the single target DPS chart yet. He hasn't mentioned anything about completing it and the last time he said something about it, he said he was far from finished and still has many buffs and things to include.

Celik1
01-14-2011, 06:42 PM
DO you have proof that they did those calculates with even stat gears and no defence monsters?

chuanjun
01-15-2011, 06:10 AM
DO you have proof that they did those calculates with even stat gears and no defence monsters?

DEFINITELY, but dusk didn't include other buffs that came out in Chaos, this DPS chart was calculated during Big Bang 2 or so.

I'm pretty sure you can get this DPS chart in (Not Northperry).

It's just for reference :/

ShiKage
01-15-2011, 06:23 AM
DEFINITELY, but dusk didn't include other buffs that came out in Chaos, this DPS chart was calculated during Big Bang 2 or so.

I'm pretty sure you can get this DPS chart in (Not Northperry).

It's just for reference :/

Er... Southperry isn't a bannable offense here, unlike on Sleepywood and Basil.

Amelia
01-15-2011, 06:29 AM
I dont really understand the whole southperry thing... Whats up with mentioning them on sleepy/basil?


OT: for UA shad/NL, you could spend a lot of $$ trying to buy pants with decent hyperbody
(unlike archers -_- ffffffffffffffffff)

chuanjun
01-15-2011, 06:48 AM
I just don't feel like advertising :/

DeanSan
01-15-2011, 01:43 PM
I dont really understand the whole southperry thing... Whats up with mentioning them on sleepy/basil?


OT: for UA shad/NL, you could spend a lot of $$ trying to buy pants with decent hyperbody
(unlike archers -_- ffffffffffffffffff)

adura is just an asshole who hates southperry

basil think southperry hacks just because fiel extracts stuff.

Max
01-15-2011, 03:35 PM
I dont really understand the whole southperry thing... Whats up with mentioning them on sleepy/basil?


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x190/loose24/spnet.png
guy in the chef hat is mrbasil
(thank you loose~)


imo the only UAs worth it are warriors and pirates

Amelia
01-15-2011, 07:43 PM
i love you so much ahahha

Saberu
01-15-2011, 09:44 PM
UA valk :3

chuanjun
01-16-2011, 01:34 AM
Who drew that O_O the chinchilla is really cute

Back to topic...

I wanted a Paladin for no-dex bonus and able to wear 10 level above but my UA was a soulmaster, kinda sick with trolldriver.

Viper would be good to throw sharks and the UA suit is a bonus but low hp.

Captain would be good also and has high DPS, but low hp and no party supporting skills except MW.

THEKEVIN
01-17-2011, 06:59 AM
1st I highly disagree with the dps chart
first it has been changed-chaos patch-for example NLs get nerfed while avenger gets boosted a lot
second shadowers CANNOT use ME continuously
third it seems as though the dps chart was assuming that each jobs range was equal
fourth Avoidability/stance/
2nd I would say viper or hero.
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chuanjun
01-18-2011, 07:47 AM
Why not Paladins?

Now is Pally vs Viper that's giving me the headache.

Pally doesn't require funding, cheap and hella slow (can be solved). Trolldriver sucks and in pvp is shit.

Viper requires little funding, strong and fast. Sharkies rocks at 60+ but suck after 120.

(More info at page 1 :/)

Amelia
01-18-2011, 08:12 AM
i simply didnt choose pally because i dont really like warriors
also because every fucking UA i saw around me was a pally

i quit my CB because everywhere i go on the internet i see people leveling their own CB talking about how its gonna be all great when they hit 4th job

my db just got boring after 4th job since all the new skills you got at 4th job was not even used to kill shit (i just felt like i wasted the whole freaking time getting from 70 to 120 since there was like no difference at all)

so then i made an SM hoping to just use it as a blessing mule for my CB but then UAs got me

so i made a "tobein8morelevels 신궁"
just because everysingleone with a cross bow was a animal riding whores

tl;dr
i quit my db as it was boring,
then my cb because i saw so many of them

made a SM got it to 120, made a UA crossbow woman because unlike "omgevery1isapally" every crossbow holding players were a wild hunterrr

chuanjun
01-19-2011, 07:28 AM
So... Viper? I see like transfomed fags and sharks everywhere in PVP...

UA Valk... I should kill the black witch first,they removed the safe platform fff.

andy556
01-19-2011, 02:06 PM
i think u shud go with viper. im deciding wether or not i shud make a ua hero or ua viper too since im close to being 100 on my koc.

Celik1
01-19-2011, 02:50 PM
I just left my Cygnus at 70, for the bless.

-Jason
01-19-2011, 05:58 PM
u should go with a ua drk. im only lv 100 but enjoying every moment of it

chuanjun
01-20-2011, 07:21 AM
Warriors could do well without troll driver, I'll wait til this October then I'll come back to kill the black witch and create my UA :|

Amelia
01-20-2011, 07:30 AM
whad

why october? u going somewhere?

-Jason
01-20-2011, 06:44 PM
forget what i said.

DO NOT GO UA DK
if you wanna, just get the skills from the cygnus lady at 70

at least with ua paladins, you can use charges with souldriver...

chuanjun
01-21-2011, 08:04 AM
I got major exams at november so I'll quit maple until october, unless someone is willing to donate to me 1-2mill to buy pots so that I can kill the black witch.

S> 2 rating scroll (Nom ripped me so I'm not selling to him :/)

Nom
01-21-2011, 09:04 AM
I got major exams at november so I'll quit maple until october, unless someone is willing to donate to me 1-2mill to buy pots so that I can kill the black witch.

S> 2 rating scroll (Nom ripped me so I'm not selling to him :/)

sold to me lol

chuanjun
01-21-2011, 09:31 AM
I killed the black witch, now i needa hunt harps, anyone in with me?

L> donation, i need mesos to buy pots T.T 에이미 제발...

Amelia
01-21-2011, 10:31 AM
what? whos 에이미?

chuanjun
01-21-2011, 10:44 AM
what? whos 에이미?

YOU

ame = 에이미 or you prefer (ame)lia 어미 :hihihi:

anyways, hunt peridots with me D: I keep getting darkness by the harp bitches

Amelia
01-21-2011, 10:55 AM
im going to bed
ill help you out tmr :)


(expecting it to be all done by then)

chuanjun
01-21-2011, 10:59 AM
im going to bed
ill help you out tmr :)


(expecting it to be all done by then)

Fixed. I'll see you tml :D