Phantom Steal Skill

[luckyten]

So typically phantom can steal skill from adventurers thats not Passive and Summon

No more shadow partner stealing:rage::rage:

Lets discuss which skill is nice/worth to steal and which adventurer attack skill is actually Higher damage than Phantoms attack skill

So far i see

1st Job : Haste , sommersault kick, Magic Guard
2nd Job: Hyper Body , Heal, Rage/Karma, Threaten, Bless, Ground Smash, Tornado Upper, Meso Guard, Power Guard
3rd Job: HS :thatshuge: , Combo Attack , Arrow Rain/Eruption , Arrow Drain, Pickpocket, Edge carnival (Bossing), Combat Order, Willow Defense
4th Job: Dark Impale, Rapid Fire, Hurricane, Adv Bless, Stance, Speed Infusion (?)， Sharp Eyes, Chain Lightning

Any more sugestions?
Btw KMST testers help me test if we can steal map crashing skills like genesis :xd:

According to this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUMj4Q9DMXM&feature=g-u

We can replace 3rd/4th job skills with stolen 2nd job skills
eg. i dont wanna use 3rd job skills (Which is impossible) and use 2 active 2nd job skills instead.

[Jay]

Support:
1st - Haste
2nd - Hyper Body
3rd - Holy Symbol
4th - Sharp Eyes

Damage:
1st - Summersault kick
2nd - Rage
3rd - Combo Attack
4th - Rapid Fire (for 1v1) Dark Impale/Chain Lightning (Mob)

Hybrid:

1st - Haste
2nd - Rage
3rd - Holy Symbol
4th - Rapid Fire (for 1v1) Dark Impale/Chain Lightning (Mob)

[luckyten]

Oh ya sharp eyes, more critical :xd::xd:

[Jericho]

Karma gives 30 Attack like Rage.

[Jay]

Is Karma party buff?

[Jericho]

Is Karma party buff?

Nope. I don't know If he was talking about Rage being better at Solo Buff or Party buff.

[Amelia]

wouldnt meso guard or power guard be better than HB?
i mean, unless you want to use it for a party

potentially, mesoguard or power guard will reduce the damage taken by half
which in other words we could say "+100% hp"

i guess you dont get the MP increase but still, better survivability

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and also, an alternative to rage (ofcourse again, if you only want to use for yourself) would be mental clarity from infighters (marauders or w/e the fuck theyr called in gms) which gives extra accuracy on top of w.att


one more thing, i was wondering if the 25% crit rate while using chain lightning is considered a passive effect? cus it only works while using chain lightning..

so if its not, and 25% crit rate applied when the skill is stolen, itd be quite easy to get 100% crit rate

[luckyten]

Nope. I don't know If he was talking about Rage being better at Solo Buff or Party buff.

Sorry but i use the skill table from southperry and they said that karma was 20 wa. :hdy:

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wouldnt meso guard or power guard be better than HB?
i mean, unless you want to use it for a party

potentially, mesoguard or power guard will reduce the damage taken by half
which in other words we could say "+100% hp"

i guess you dont get the MP increase but still, better survivability

---------- Post added at 07:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 AM ----------

and also, an alternative to rage (ofcourse again, if you only want to use for yourself) would be mental clarity from infighters (marauders or w/e the fuck theyr called in gms) which gives extra accuracy on top of w.att


one more thing, i was wondering if the 25% crit rate while using chain lightning is considered a passive effect? cus it only works while using chain lightning..

so if its not, and 25% crit rate applied when the skill is stolen, itd be quite easy to get 100% crit rate

Well basically im a poor ass =3 and i wont be using meso as my damage replacer :xd:
and i don't think that accuracy is actually important :hdy:
and 100% critical rate will be dam raping! hope some1 in KMST test this for us. :vendetta:

[Amelia]

ooh oh and another suggestion for 4th job!

illusion step would be pretty awesome to have?

+40 dex and 30% dodge rate
which overall would add upto 80% dodge rate overall (30% from 3rd job, 20% from 4th job +30% from illusion step)

unless the calculation doesnt stack like that :/
just a thought..

[luckyten]

Well i only hope that the Passive effect of active skills can be stolen , if that is possible it will open a whole new choices of stealing skills!

I am starting to rage over why i did'nt get in KMST :rage::rage::rage::rage:

[minchern]

Bossing :
1st job In use: Magic Guard Spare: Haste,Dark Sight,Dash(?)
2nd job In use: Hyper Body Spare: Karma,Threaten,Meso Guard
3rd job In use: Combo Attack(?) Spare:Willow Defensive,Lucky Dice (?)
4th job In use: Rapid Fire Spare:Chain Lightning(For Zakum arms :P)

Party Mule :
1st job In use: Haste Spare:(IDK other 3 that is a party buffs ><)
2nd job In use: Hyper Body Spare: Rage,Meditation,Heal
3rd job In use: Holy Symbol Spare: Bless,Combat Order
4th job In use: Sharp Eyes Spare: Advance Bless

Grinding :
1st job In use: Somersault Kick Spare: Haste,Dark Sight,Slash Blast
2nd job In use: Tornado Upper Spare: Heal(undead),Shuriken Burst,Karma
3rd job In use: Arrow Rain Spare: Dragon Fury,Holy Symbol
4th job In use: Chain Lightning, Dark Impale

CRITIC PLOX!!!:rage::rage:

[luckyten]

Bossing :
1st job In use: Magic Guard Spare: Haste,Dark Sight,Dash(?)
2nd job In use: Hyper Body Spare: Karma,Threaten,Meso Guard
3rd job In use: Combo Attack(?) Spare:Willow Defensive,Lucky Dice (?)
4th job In use: Rapid Fire Spare:Chain Lightning(For Zakum arms :P)

Party Mule :
1st job In use: Haste Spare:(IDK other 3 that is a party buffs ><)
2nd job In use: Hyper Body Spare: Rage,Meditation,Heal
3rd job In use: Holy Symbol Spare: Bless,Combat Order
4th job In use: Sharp Eyes Spare: Advance Bless

Grinding :
1st job In use: Somersault Kick Spare: Haste,Dark Sight,Slash Blast
2nd job In use: Tornado Upper Spare: Heal(undead),Shuriken Burst,Karma
3rd job In use: Arrow Rain Spare: Dragon Fury,Holy Symbol
4th job In use: Chain Lightning, Dark Impale

CRITIC PLOX!!!:rage::rage:

Well bassically bossing don't need magic guards since their mp is low and so is their def I rather pick HB and burn hp pots than mp pot:smoosh:

Party mule is perfect when skills given to party members won't get disable so just buff everything and spam heal like never before!

because it's the perfect buff mule I believe some Koreans will start earnin $$ by sellin buffs to future new jobs like mad:vendetta:

for grinding most of the skills deal more DPM than phantom skills and I'm so lazy to calculate a fully buffed phantom with it's original attack skill or a partly buffed phantom usin other jobs attack mob faster:hdy:

so conclusion stealing skills depend on personal fun and needs :xd:

and uh any testers mind steal some skill for meh:smoosh:
I spoilered that wall of text :wobbuffet:

any KMST testers mind helping me to steal some skills eg. Dragon roar , nautilus ship, genesis, headshot (pirate 4th job) , speed infusion , adv combo, vipers lazor skill, Captains Octo gun skill, poison mist + explosion, resurection, white knight charge + rush, time leap.

BTW are there cooldown for stolen skills?

[Imaginal]

Sorry but i use the skill table from southperry and they said that karma was 20 wa. :hdy:

Thieves had a second skill change :P
It includes Karma going from 20 -> 30

[luckyten]

Thieves had a second skill change :P
It includes Karma going from 20 -> 30

If thats so i think karma is partyly better than rage because the effect is cooler :wobbuffet:

[Jay]

If thats so i think karma is partyly better than rage because the effect is cooler :wobbuffet:

Don't forget Rage is a party skill.

[luckyten]

Don't forget Rage is a party skill.

Im a selfish person :cardcrusher:

[THEKEVIN]

adv combo basically makes ur dmg be twice,
also, is there no decent attack skill for them (without stealing)?

[luckyten]

adv combo basically makes ur dmg be twice,
also, is there no decent attack skill for them (without stealing)?

hmmm can adv combo be stolen? cause it will make ultimate drive more op.

[chuanjun]

hmmm can adv combo be stolen? cause it will make ultimate drive more op.

It's a passive fourth job skill*, so no.

[luckyten]

It's a passive fourth job skill*, so no.

so no more adv combo for us :afraid:

[Imaginal]

hmmm can adv combo be stolen? cause it will make ultimate drive more op.

Advanced Combo looks so bad on Phantoms T___T
when using ultimate drive practically your whole body is behind an orb. : (

[ElitistJap]

Are you able to steal UA skills?

[luckyten]

Hmmm but adv combos damage can't be denied :hdy:

And we totally forget there's UA lulz

[Jay]

UA skills is in beginner tab.

[luckyten]

UA skills is in beginner tab.
Awwwww

[xyxjj]

adv combo basically makes ur dmg be twice,
also, is there no decent attack skill for them (without stealing)?

I believe coat of arms is decent?

210% 4 times after it got buffed.

also my combination would probably be:

1st job: Haste
2nd job: HB/ rage/Karma/Power gaurd, or Savage Blow/Fatal Blow(if Possible)/2 other good mobbing skills
3rd job: Combo attack/HS/CO, or Chains Of Hell (if i decide to take dark sight)/Dragon Roar/Brandish
4th job: SE/Advanced Bless, Or Any one of the warrior main skill/Chain Lightning


btw, if we take a mage skill, would our attack be dependant on the wa on our canes, or there's a different formula for it

[luckyten]

I believe coat of arms is decent?

210% 4 times after it got buffed.

also my combination would probably be:

1st job: Haste
2nd job: HB/ rage/Karma/Power gaurd, or Savage Blow/Fatal Blow(if Possible)/2 other good mobbing skills
3rd job: Combo attack/HS/CO, or Chains Of Hell (if i decide to take dark sight)/Dragon Roar/Brandish
4th job: SE/Advanced Bless, Or Any one of the warrior main skill/Chain Lightning


btw, if we take a mage skill, would our attack be dependant on the wa on our canes, or there's a different formula for it
At 1st job there aint any better skill than haste to steal and i dont think we can steal dualblades.

4th job mostly will be taken dark impale, chain lightning or rapid fire or good bossing and mobbing.

still waiting for testers to steal genesis for me :smoosh:

Maybe the WA of cane will directly be changed to MA when using mage attack skills.....
Maybe? :hdy:

[Amelia]

i thought it worked directly off your range but i guess not?
because i saw on a post on southperry, where cane mastery doesnt apply to other job skills

(which im hoping is a bug)

and if it did work directly off the range, there shouldnt have been a problem so... ahhidk

[luckyten]

i thought it worked directly off your range but i guess not?
because i saw on a post on southperry, where cane mastery doesnt apply to other job skills

(which im hoping is a bug)

and if it did work directly off the range, there shouldnt have been a problem so... ahhidk
lulwut Nexon better be fixing this or theres no more stealing spree!

[Amelia]

scratch that,

apparently the whole canemastery thing is fixed in 1.2.412

[luckyten]

How bout using magic attack skills with cane?

[james2kk]

are all the stolen skills in max level???
or depend on the steal skill lvl?

[luckyten]

1st you steal the skill a character and the skill level stolen is the skill level from that character.
2nd the skill level never exceeds your Steal Skill level.

eg.Stole a lvl15 rage and steal skills lvl20 = lvl15 rage
Stole a lvl20 karma and steal skill lvl10= lvl10 karma

[Amelia]

it depends on the level of your "talent of phantom thief" skill
if your skill level is 13, the skill you steal will also be 13

however, it also depends on the person youre stealing from
so even if you have maxed out "talent of phantom thief" skill, if the person youre stealing from only has, for example, level 3 hyperbody, the stolen skill will also be level 3

edit; ninja'd

[xyxjj]

why can't you steal from dual blades? Their still adventurers. Same with cannon shooters

[Amelia]

why can't you steal from dual blades? Their still adventurers. Same with cannon shooters
i dont think anyone said you cant, they just cant prove it since kmst doesnt have CS or DBs

[Amelia]

fuck. they patched hastes passive effect so you cant get 180 speed on a phantom anymore
the max speed is 160%.....


edit; sorry for the double post.. :/

[minchern]

There is no glowing Cannon or glowing Blade so I doon't think they can steal form CS or DB :wdyjs:

[luckyten]

fuck. they patched hastes passive effect so you cant get 180 speed on a phantom anymore
the max speed is 160%.....


edit; sorry for the double post.. :/
Ok that means no more flying around the map.....

And I 100% believe they can't steal cannon shooter, it will be too op.

[Draego]

Ok that means no more flying around the map.....

And I 100% believe they can't steal cannon shooter, it will be too op.

They can't.

Refer to this link for Transformable weapons. (http://i.imgur.com/Waoqh.png)


As you see,cannons are not there and thus CS skills cannot be used.

[Amelia]

They can't.

Refer to this link for Transformable weapons. (http://i.imgur.com/Waoqh.png)


As you see,cannons are not there and thus CS skills cannot be used.

im not doubting your comment about cannonshooters, since i somewhat agree with you
but you seem pretty sure and reliant on that image list,


ok, so ummm where are daggers?

[xyxjj]

they should have used the design of reverse weapons.

Reverse weapon design > everything else

[luckyten]

im not doubting your comment about cannonshooters, since i somewhat agree with you
but you seem pretty sure and reliant on that image list,


ok, so ummm where are daggers?

Hmmm i cant find them too...


they should have used the design of reverse weapons.

Reverse weapon design > everything else

Ya i totally agree with that, it will make phantom look so cool. :anime:

[minchern]

Ya i totally agree with that, it will make phantom look so cool. :anime:

I prefer Empress Weapon :blush::blush::blush:

[Draego]

See the two sets of Pinaka's?


1 Set was changed to blood daggers.

That image there is a bit before phantom hit Tespia.

[luckyten]

I prefer Empress Weapon :blush::blush::blush:

Sorry but i never saw empress weapon before :afraid:

See the two sets of Pinaka's?


1 Set was changed to blood daggers.

That image there is a bit before phantom hit Tespia.

Yeah i saw 2 pinaka's so wheres the new image :smartass: